[KRAFTWERK] Gahan on Kraftwerk (YW)

Marie Stocks marie at sharpsigns.co.nz
Tue Mar 3 19:43:46 CET 2009


Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:47:18 +0100
From: YW <youwine at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KRAFTWERK] Dave Gahan on Kraftwerk
To: kraftwerk at activerecord.com
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Would we all be more happy if we never had a chance to see and hear KW
live again ? I sincerely doubt.

While Herr Schneider has my full respect for his contribution, Herr
H?tter also has my full respect for carrying on the flag. How easy it
would be or him to retire. Instead, he travels around the globe and
brings this wonderful, unique show to new grounds. And, besides, gives
us old fans a few more chance to re-live our youth.

Cheers

I totally agree with you, I saw KW last year - and I would love to see
them again, I have to say I did miss Florian but Stephan did a great job
of the visuals, sure he's no Florian but he'll get there (on the visual
side of things). Believe it or not the concert was full of energy and
expression. There's allot of life still left in the ol' machine.

cheers    

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Dave 
   2. Re: supporting (Leonard R. Cleavelin)
   3. Need ticket for Wolfsburg concert (Christophe Socquet)
   4. support act (Nicolau Centola)
   5. katalogue... again (Nicolau Centola)
   6. vienna orchester presenting Trans europa express (YingZi Zaphiel)
   7. Re: katalogue... again (plaestique at web.de)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:47:18 +0100
From: YW <youwine at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KRAFTWERK] Dave Gahan on Kraftwerk
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Would we all be more happy if we never had a chance to see and hear KW
live again ? I sincerely doubt.

While Herr Schneider has my full respect for his contribution, Herr
H?tter also has my full respect for carrying on the flag. How easy it
would be or him to retire. Instead, he travels around the globe and
brings this wonderful, unique show to new grounds. And, besides, gives
us old fans a few more chance to re-live our youth.

cheers



On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM,  <plaestique at web.de> wrote:
> In fact i have to agree 100% with you. Sadly KRAFTWERK 2009 finally
comes to an end and no mysthification about high on perfectionism can
avoid to see the things as they are without any idealistic projection:
>
> - boredomness
> - shutdown
>
> playing 98% of old classics still reminds much more like oldie-nights
concerts only refreshed by updated visuals. Performing with new
technoligy in sound and visuals is quite commen in todays music business
and in fact nothing special. But KRAFTWERK is celebrating this as some
state of the art, or much more like some kind of art. This is rather
ridicioulous and sadly to see this kind of self-deconstructing ending up
as some kind of support act while playing on every festival they can
catch.
>
> Mr. Schneider had well done to stop this on his own and he has my full
respect for presenting such class. He is the really - cool - guy like
KRAFTWERK allways represented for me since i am a fan.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:59:51 -0600
From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" <leonard at cleavelin.net>
Subject: Re: [KRAFTWERK] supporting
To: Klaus.Zaepke at gmx.net, kraftwerk at activerecord.com
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Klaus Zaepke <k_z at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> To me this looks like a touring festival (of course, I dont read
Portoguese
>> so I cant say for sure what everything reads). Most festivals put the
bigger
>> draw on top of the poster. With KW up against Radiohead, KW would be
the
>> "smaller" band in terms of mass popularity. Like it or not.
>>
>> "Support act" in my part of the world means the band that warms up
the
>> audience before the main act comes on stage.
>
> The Radiohead website lists Kraftwerk as support.
>
> And the ticket for Sao Paulo mentions only "Radiohead + special
> guests" :
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/caioab/3210494571/
>
> Also, on Ticketmaster Mexico the shows are only listed as
> Radiohead shows.
>
> So I'd say that Kraftwerk can be indeed seen as a support act for
> Radiohead.

Every once in a while promoters put together concerts with two acts
that are so prominent that neither can be comfortably thought of as a
"support act". This might be one of those times (as a Kraftwerk fan
who knows little of Radiohead besides the fact of the band's
existence, I'd tend to view it that way).

Obviously, one has to have top billing, and one band has to play
first; it appears that Radiohead gets the top billing and Kraftwerk is
playing first. That would make most people see Kraftwerk as the
opening, or "support", act.

Back in my college days I used to work at one of the major concert
venues in St. Louis, MO, and I saw a couple concerts where the acts
were prominent enough, and had different enough fanbases, that the
audience almost completely "turned over" during the intermission
between acts (i.e., the audience for the opening band almost
completely left the venue, and the audience for the main act didn't
enter the venue until the intermission). What's the likelihood that
the Kraftwerk/Radiohead show is going to be like that?

Cheers,

LRC

--
 I'm still close with a lot of the girls. A few of them went
 on to become Lakers Girls, Denver Broncos cheerleaders. I
 was the only one who turned out to be nothing. All the rest
 of 'em danced for NFL teams and I didn't do anything.
 	--Erin Andrews [bemoaning the fact that she never
 	   amounted to anything after her time as a Florida
 	   Gators basketball dance team member; Andrews, a
 	   sideline reporter for ESPN, is probably the most
 	   lusted after sports media personality in the US,
 	   and was voted "America's Sexiest Sportscaster"
 	   by _Playboy_ in 2007]


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:29:26 +0100
From: "Christophe Socquet" <CST at SODEXO-PASS.BE>
Subject: [KRAFTWERK] Need ticket for Wolfsburg concert
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Hi,

I am looking for a ticket for one of the Wolfsburg concerts.

I know I am a bit late.
Actually, I had personal issues when the tickets were released for sale,
and at that time, I thought I could not attend the show.

Finally, everything is sorted out for me, but unfortunately, the
concerts are now sold out.
I would like to avoid the "black market", and the insane overpriced
tickets.

I think it's better when fans can help each other.

So, if you have a spare ticket for me, fellow Kraftwerk fan for the past
15 years, I would appreciate it very much.

Thank you in advance for your help.


Christophe




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:02:24 -0300
From: Nicolau Centola <centola.nicolau at gmail.com>
Subject: [KRAFTWERK] support act
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Thanks, Klaus,

you said it better than me. Yes, KW is the support act for Radiohead,
festival producers and brazilian media.

peace

Nicolau

> ------------------------------
> The Radiohead website lists Kraftwerk as support.
>
> And the ticket for Sao Paulo mentions only "Radiohead + special
> guests" :
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/caioab/3210494571/
>
> Also, on Ticketmaster Mexico the shows are only listed as
> Radiohead shows.
>
> So I'd say that Kraftwerk can be indeed seen as a support act for
> Radiohead.


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:06:19 -0300
From: Nicolau Centola <centola.nicolau at gmail.com>
Subject: [KRAFTWERK] katalogue... again
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AFAIK, Kling Klang is the responsible for KW releases, and probably
distributed by a major. This is one of the real differences between
german 70?s bands and the rest of the world, the control of mostly the
complete process. I really don?t know if this major could drop a KW
release. Dirk?

peace

Nicolau


>
> I guess the Katalog project was dropped by the record company, not by
> KW. Depeche's Best of Volume 1 sold well over a million a copy
> worldwide and was considered a failure. Now, a boxset would be far
> more expensive to produce and it would not sell even near to a million
> units.


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:42:50 +0800
From: YingZi Zaphiel <yingzi419 at gmail.com>
Subject: [KRAFTWERK] vienna orchester presenting Trans europa express
To: kraftwerk at activerecord.com
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vienna orchester presenting Trans europa express:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4pWqJA5I0k

i felt is quite good.

-- 
YingZi (Zaphiel NG)

"All Real Living is EVENT"
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:11:44 +0100
From: plaestique at web.de
Subject: Re: [KRAFTWERK] katalogue... again
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I would call this disability by unsureness based on the fact of being
overtaken by the speed of 
contemporary technical developments and in general without remarking it.
Kirk? 

No,.....better Scotty,...beam me up!

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> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Nicolau Centola" <centola.nicolau at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: 03.03.09 14:23:01
> An: kraftwerk at activerecord.com
> Betreff: [KRAFTWERK] katalogue... again


> AFAIK, Kling Klang is the responsible for KW releases, and probably
> distributed by a major. This is one of the real differences between
> german 70?s bands and the rest of the world, the control of mostly the
> complete process. I really don?t know if this major could drop a KW
> release. Dirk?
> 
> peace
> 
> Nicolau
> 
> 
> >
> > I guess the Katalog project was dropped by the record company, not
by
> > KW. Depeche's Best of Volume 1 sold well over a million a copy
> > worldwide and was considered a failure. Now, a boxset would be far
> > more expensive to produce and it would not sell even near to a
million
> > units.
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> Observe the rules of the list!
> http://www.kraftwerk.hu/antenna
> 


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